victor had been wanting to start a straight up youth crew hardcore band for a long time. finally he named the band as «things we say» and recorded 4 song demo at one of his friends garage in toronto, canada in may 2004. lenny from hands down (R.I.P) played drums for him and victor did everything else. victor’s visa got expired and had to go back to his home country, korea. he decided to start this band in korea and talked to his friends. kiseok fro читать дальше...
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